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"***This will be a bit long winded. Trying my best not to make this confusing.
As of 3Jan23 the ECM (AKA) ECU (AKA) PGM FI UNIT for the Rune is
backordered and expected in stock 10-24 Oct for the A or 49 States/Canada one,
and is listed as unavailable for the AC or California one.
Used units (ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT) with matched or paired keys to that unit maybe the future for Rune owners if
this part is no longer available to be purchased from Honda or an individual with one on the shelf willing to part with it,
if and when theirs fails. Failure of this part has happened far too many times. Hopefully Honda will understand that and
keep having them made and stock them again. I ain't counting on that.
A downside to purchasing a used setup is that the keys have already been cut to the Rune it was removed from.
One option is to also purchase the ignition switch, fuel cap, and seat lock to get the complete matched set or all the
parts keyed to the used key(s). Or re-key the locks on the Rune that needs the used ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT if possible or have separate/additional key(s).
Being I'm lazy and cheap I would go with option B and do a chip swap.
The key itself is a mechanical device that is used to operate the mechanisms be it the ignition switch,
fuel cap lock, or seat lock.
When the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT is paired to or match to a key, it is the chip in the key head that it is really matched/paired to.
So, one can simply swap the chip.
A new ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT requires two new keys to pair with. If one has the old keys and is replacing the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT because it failed. The old keys can be used with very little work, saving the need to cut the new keys.
Just swap out the old chip in the old key(s) head with the chip(s) from the new keys.
You end up having the original keys with the stamped in key code on them, and no need for a locksmith to cut keys.
If you need to swap the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT because you lost ALL the keys and are using a used setup because a new one can't be had. Purchase new keys based on key code if you have it, or get it from fuel tank cap,
---have locksmith open fuel cap, and have locksmith cut new keys to code. The new keys will work to turn on the ignition, open fuel cap, and open seat lock.
All is left is to remove chip(s)from new keys and swap in the ones
from the keys that came with the used ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT and are already paired to it.
Here is how easy it is to remove and replace the chip in the Rune's key head.
Picture one: How a new key comes: key and both covers. You can see where the chip is sealed into the key.
Picture two: Shows the chip partial exposed. I removed the potting/sealing material with my fingernail and a wood toothpick.
Picture three: Shows the cavity where the chip came from and the chip next to the key head. Both have been cleaned.
Finger and or fingernail is all that is required to clean chip.
Picture four: Shows the chip reinstalled in cavity, note cavity has fingers or guides to local chip in the correct position.
There is also a space or gap to use a dental pick to very easily remove the chip without damage.
Picture five: Shows the chip secured/sealed/waterproofed back in its place. I use black RTV/Silicone. Other than my
fingernail, the items in picture is all that is needed and it's very easy to do, takes more time to gather items
than to remove/swap chips. When done install covers for the oem/finished look.
Used keys will also require the removal of the cover(s) to expose the chip cavity.
RIDE SAFE and RIDE OFTEN"
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How many miles on the Rune before you had this Issue?"***This will be a bit long winded. Trying my best not to make this confusing.
As of 3Jan23 the ECM (AKA) ECU (AKA) PGM FI UNIT for the Rune is
backordered and expected in stock 10-24 Oct for the A or 49 States/Canada one,
and is listed as unavailable for the AC or California one.
Used units (ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT) with matched or paired keys to that unit maybe the future for Rune owners if
this part is no longer available to be purchased from Honda or an individual with one on the shelf willing to part with it,
if and when theirs fails. Failure of this part has happened far too many times. Hopefully Honda will understand that and
keep having them made and stock them again. I ain't counting on that.
A downside to purchasing a used setup is that the keys have already been cut to the Rune it was removed from.
One option is to also purchase the ignition switch, fuel cap, and seat lock to get the complete matched set or all the
parts keyed to the used key(s). Or re-key the locks on the Rune that needs the used ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT if possible or have separate/additional key(s).
Being I'm lazy and cheap I would go with option B and do a chip swap.
The key itself is a mechanical device that is used to operate the mechanisms be it the ignition switch,
fuel cap lock, or seat lock.
When the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT is paired to or match to a key, it is the chip in the key head that it is really matched/paired to.
So, one can simply swap the chip.
A new ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT requires two new keys to pair with. If one has the old keys and is replacing the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT because it failed. The old keys can be used with very little work, saving the need to cut the new keys.
Just swap out the old chip in the old key(s) head with the chip(s) from the new keys.
You end up having the original keys with the stamped in key code on them, and no need for a locksmith to cut keys.
If you need to swap the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT because you lost ALL the keys and are using a used setup because a new one can't be had. Purchase new keys based on key code if you have it, or get it from fuel tank cap,
---have locksmith open fuel cap, and have locksmith cut new keys to code. The new keys will work to turn on the ignition, open fuel cap, and open seat lock.
All is left is to remove chip(s)from new keys and swap in the ones
from the keys that came with the used ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT and are already paired to it.
Here is how easy it is to remove and replace the chip in the Rune's key head.
Picture one: How a new key comes: key and both covers. You can see where the chip is sealed into the key.
Picture two: Shows the chip partial exposed. I removed the potting/sealing material with my fingernail and a wood toothpick.
Picture three: Shows the cavity where the chip came from and the chip next to the key head. Both have been cleaned.
Finger and or fingernail is all that is required to clean chip.
Picture four: Shows the chip reinstalled in cavity, note cavity has fingers or guides to local chip in the correct position.
There is also a space or gap to use a dental pick to very easily remove the chip without damage.
Picture five: Shows the chip secured/sealed/waterproofed back in its place. I use black RTV/Silicone. Other than my
fingernail, the items in picture is all that is needed and it's very easy to do, takes more time to gather items
than to remove/swap chips. When done install covers for the oem/finished look.
Used keys will also require the removal of the cover(s) to expose the chip cavity.
RIDE SAFE and RIDE OFTEN
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How many miles on the Rune before you had This Issue"***This will be a bit long winded. Trying my best not to make this confusing.
As of 3Jan23 the ECM (AKA) ECU (AKA) PGM FI UNIT for the Rune is
backordered and expected in stock 10-24 Oct for the A or 49 States/Canada one,
and is listed as unavailable for the AC or California one.
Used units (ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT) with matched or paired keys to that unit maybe the future for Rune owners if
this part is no longer available to be purchased from Honda or an individual with one on the shelf willing to part with it,
if and when theirs fails. Failure of this part has happened far too many times. Hopefully Honda will understand that and
keep having them made and stock them again. I ain't counting on that.
A downside to purchasing a used setup is that the keys have already been cut to the Rune it was removed from.
One option is to also purchase the ignition switch, fuel cap, and seat lock to get the complete matched set or all the
parts keyed to the used key(s). Or re-key the locks on the Rune that needs the used ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT if possible or have separate/additional key(s).
Being I'm lazy and cheap I would go with option B and do a chip swap.
The key itself is a mechanical device that is used to operate the mechanisms be it the ignition switch,
fuel cap lock, or seat lock.
When the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT is paired to or match to a key, it is the chip in the key head that it is really matched/paired to.
So, one can simply swap the chip.
A new ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT requires two new keys to pair with. If one has the old keys and is replacing the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT because it failed. The old keys can be used with very little work, saving the need to cut the new keys.
Just swap out the old chip in the old key(s) head with the chip(s) from the new keys.
You end up having the original keys with the stamped in key code on them, and no need for a locksmith to cut keys.
If you need to swap the ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT because you lost ALL the keys and are using a used setup because a new one can't be had. Purchase new keys based on key code if you have it, or get it from fuel tank cap,
---have locksmith open fuel cap, and have locksmith cut new keys to code. The new keys will work to turn on the ignition, open fuel cap, and open seat lock.
All is left is to remove chip(s)from new keys and swap in the ones
from the keys that came with the used ECM/ECU/PGM FI UNIT and are already paired to it.
Here is how easy it is to remove and replace the chip in the Rune's key head.
Picture one: How a new key comes: key and both covers. You can see where the chip is sealed into the key.
Picture two: Shows the chip partial exposed. I removed the potting/sealing material with my fingernail and a wood toothpick.
Picture three: Shows the cavity where the chip came from and the chip next to the key head. Both have been cleaned.
Finger and or fingernail is all that is required to clean chip.
Picture four: Shows the chip reinstalled in cavity, note cavity has fingers or guides to local chip in the correct position.
There is also a space or gap to use a dental pick to very easily remove the chip without damage.
Picture five: Shows the chip secured/sealed/waterproofed back in its place. I use black RTV/Silicone. Other than my
fingernail, the items in picture is all that is needed and it's very easy to do, takes more time to gather items
than to remove/swap chips. When done install covers for the oem/finished look.
Used keys will also require the removal of the cover(s) to expose the chip cavity.
RIDE SAFE and RIDE OFTEN
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It is"Isn't it awesome that imaginary Runes are so easy to fix..."
" I see partzilla has one in stock. Not much difference on price between the two places.
You know RaRune, if folks don't have a spare ecm/pgm-fi unit when they need one and they are no longer available, they'll make good part Runes."
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