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First of all, a few apologies and disclaimers. This will likely be the longest post I ever make here. I certainly hope so. My reason for posting is just to get this engine "event" on the record so if any of the rest of you have a similar problem you will know of one other Rune out there that has already experienced it and give your Dealer or shop a "heads up". The outcome was good. The Rune was an awesome bike before the warranty work and it still is. It runs better than ever, if that is possible. Ok, here goes:

Last summer, just before leaving for INZANE, after a long hot ride over the North Cascade Highway, I noticed at low speed (wearing a half helmet, so I could hear) a significant grumble from the left side rear of the engine. The noise was more noticable high in the engine case rather than down low. To me it sounded like a couple of stones tumbling in a rock tumbler. To hear it you needed to listen past the engine sounds, cause the engine noise is completely separate and if you are looking for a change from the normal engine sounds you will not find it at all. It is a completely different noise. My riding buddy Ratdog, gave it his "guesstimate diagnosis" as an alternator shaft bearing. There are 2 of them, front and aft. His guess was the front. I took the bike to the Dealer and told them what I knew and left the bike while I rode to INZANE. I called them from Paducah and they said they had replaced the rear alternator shaft bearing and all that went very well but the bad news was it did not solve the problem. You can replace the rear shaft bearing without engine disassembly. They were waiting for a visit from their District Service Manager to get his diagnosis. I took the bike home after INZANE and rode it every day to work. The noise was still there. Finally, the DSM scheduled a visit to Seattle and I dropped the bike off the day before. He knew exactly what the problem was once he listened to it. It becomes more noticable the hotter the bike is running. He said indeed it was the front alternator shaft bearing starting to break up. He recognized the problem cause they had a bunch of these in the first year of the 1800 Wing and repaired all of them under warranty. The problem is not actually a faulty bearing. The real culprit is the left side engine case (part #21100-MEC-000). Evidently there were several of them that were not milled to the exact specs and the first problem to manifest itself is the front alternator shaft bering going away. It was a parts supplier problem and they thought they had it solved. The engine case is not just a "cover". It has several critical features that are milled directly into it. Things like spring holders and toggle valve seats and things like that. Obviously, you have to drop and split the entire engine, remove the left side case and replace certain parts that could have been affected by the shavings of the bearing disintegrating, or from the engine case being forced into a fit at the factory while it was not milled quite to specs. I was "Runeless" for about 3 weeks while this work was done. Fortunately, I was out of the country for 2 weeks of it so it was not such a big deal (and I have my trusty 2000 Tourer {86,000 miles}, as a back up bike). I list here the parts that had to be replaced:

Parts Quantity Description
31111-PO8-J02 1 Bearing, RR
13430-MCA-780 1 Gear Assy. (28T)
13320-MCA-780 1Gear (72T)
96140-60040-00 1 Gear (72T)
21112-MCA-000 1 Gasket, RR, Case
90456-MAS-000 1 Washer (25MM)
13534-MCA-000 1 Spring, Thrust
90206-MZ0-000 1 Nut Hex, (22MM)
90245-MN5-000 1 Nut Lock (40MM)
90241-MB0-000 1 Nut Lock (30MM)
11351-MCA-000 1 Gasket, Clutch Cover
91301-MGB-003 1 O-Ring (51.6X2.3)
18291-MNS-650 6 Gasket, EX PIPE
15410-MCJ-003 1 Filter, Oil
94109-14000 1 Washer DRN Plug 14MM
6140 4 Bardahl Syth 10/40
08C50-C321S01 4 HP Coolant Qt
90428-PD6-003 2 Washer (12MM)
 

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Hi, sorry to hear of your misfortune. My buddy in work is hearing the same noise coming from his 03' Wing. Just started doing it on this past Thurs.( 10/11 ) Thanks for your post, it will help someone else get to the root of their problem. Will keep you informed of his progress.
Rich K ( Rune Ski )
 

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My bud with the '02 Goldwing had his altenator changed under warrenty 28,000 mi. and that fixed the problem
Rich K ( Rune Ski )
 

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a couple of questions

Sorry for the down time and scare; what was your mileage and year of Rune with the last 4 digits of your serial number. Nice write up and very detailed without it getting lost. Take care and keep on smiling. Will there be any recall notices as this seems sort of serious and Mother Honda knows about the forceing of a few parts/and thats not thier style(I hope) Thanks.ron/dog:tools1:
 

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engine

Do you know you are talking about a 6 year old post.....
 

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Cyclops hasn't been on the board for over 2 years, his last time on was 02-15-2008
I don't think you'll going get a response.

He had this problem back in 04

Edit: See, Steve knows what year it is!
 

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Cyclops do you know what the total cost of the parts were to fix the bike?
You can look up the parts in the parts fiche if you need to know pricing...
http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_select.asp?mfg=Honda

Looks like a total of about $540.02
plus coolant and oil and a couple of parts I couldn't easily find prices on.

Parts Quantity Description
31111-PO8-J02 1 Bearing, RR $-not found
13430-MCA-780 1 Gear Assy. (28T) $312.25
13320-MCA-780 1Gear (72T) $125.61
96140-60040-00 1 Gear (72T) $13.26
21112-MCA-000 1 Gasket, RR, Case $23.09
90456-MAS-000 1 Washer (25MM) -not found
13534-MCA-000 1 Spring, Thrust $2.95
90206-MZ0-000 1 Nut Hex, (22MM) $6.10
90245-MN5-000 1 Nut Lock (40MM) $19.64
90241-MB0-000 1 Nut Lock (30MM) $12.77
11351-MCA-000 1 Gasket, Clutch Cover $8.46
91301-MGB-003 1 O-Ring (51.6X2.3) -not found
18291-MNS-650 6 Gasket, EX PIPE -not found
15410-MCJ-003 1 Filter, Oil $8.39
94109-14000 1 Washer DRN Plug 14MM $2.50
90428-PD6-003 2 Washer (12MM) $2.50

I hope this helps!
 

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Major warranty engine work

That is one of the great things that I love about this site. The combined knowledge of all the other rider/owners of my beloved Rune. If you have a problem you can rest assured someone at one time or another has expierenced it and the reolution will be archived. Happy to be a member and loving every minute on my Rune. Another H/D riders moment happened the other night. A H/D friend and I stopped at a local watering hole HAWG HEAVEN. We pulled into the lot and about 6 H/D riders were standing out front enjoying their beverages. They all came over with the usual questions WHAT IS IT, HOW DOES IT SOUND they noticed the rivco 6 packs right away. All in all that just adds to the enjoyment of Rune ownership. :a13: Pat
 
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