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Results are in....Drum-Roll...

Dunlop Direct : No longer in production.

STG : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $264
Cyclegear : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $299
Revzilla : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $299
Midwest Traction : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $300
Chaparral Moto : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $304
J&P Cycles : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $305
Powersports Choice : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $357
Tires Online : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $387
American Moto Tire : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $395
Lion Parts : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $423
V-Twin Parts : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $455
eBay : Sold Out - No Restock Known @ $455


Amazon : Shinko REAR Tire 150/60R18 $123
Vivid Racing : Shows Available $454
 

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I can post screen-caps later just to be 100% sure that I'm not lying, being dramatic, or an idiot.

I really appreciate taking the time to... well kill some more of my obviously meaningless time looking up this, yet again, to find the same results while somehow being made to feel stupid on top of dealing with everyday life shit and trying to get this somehow resolved as a part of this "concerned" community of "riders".

MO Rune Rider: I will absolutely let you know how the BT tire comes across once it shows up and we get it mounted in this fender, fingers crossed so hard that we have a winner and I really do appreciate your info on that as well as your concern over the state of the current tire after such a short trip. Luckily this was mounted in reverse as I absolutely feel that this tire would have separated catastrophically if it had been running normally and expanded the banding against that drag/rub and the slight lacerations from the accident. My wife is still a bit shaken by it all...and I'm downplaying it as much as I can to not have her freaking out anymore than usual with my dedication to riding constantly.
 

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Dunlop D251 Front Tire on Sale (Best Reviews) - 2Wheel | 2Wheel This web site claims an est time of arrival for the D251 150/60 r18 to be 7/11/22, however, it also lists it for a whopping $338.95! Ouchy.

I run Shinkos on my 2009 Vmax and luv them - price vs mileage - I can shred ANY tire brand on the back of that bike in well under 2000 miles, so cheaper is usually a better buy for me on that bike, and the stinko's come with nearly 30% more tread depth from the git-go.

Weird realization to me just now - my Vmax eats rear tires. My Rune eats front tires. hummmmmm....
 

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Dunlop D251 Front Tire on Sale (Best Reviews) - 2Wheel | 2Wheel This web site claims an est time of arrival for the D251 150/60 r18 to be 7/11/22, however, it also lists it for a whopping $338.95! Ouchy.

I run Shinkos on my 2009 Vmax and luv them - price vs mileage - I can shred ANY tire brand on the back of that bike in well under 2000 miles, so cheaper is usually a better buy for me on that bike, and the stinko's come with nearly 30% more tread depth from the git-go.

Weird realization to me just now - my Vmax eats rear tires. My Rune eats front tires. hummmmmm....
Good looking out! I checked there but they only stock the following in Dunlop D251:
130/70R18 (out of stock)
200/60R16 (in stock)
150/80R16 (in stock)

That D251 has more variants that definitely makes searching for the 150/60R18 a serious chore as you have to check those drop-down menus. The web results for this tire will absolutely lead you to believe that you have found somewhere with this size "in stock" but every single time you verify the size you will be met with disappointment...95% of the time it is no longer stocked or 5% of the time it will be outrageously overpriced and usually also on back-order.
 

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Sorry it took so long to respond. I often don't check the website on weekends. So the place I had found it for $226, NOW shows it is out of stock. Who knows if they REALLY had it in stock when I posted a few days ago? That website was SportBikeTrackGear.com or Dunlop D251 Front Tires.

MotorcycleId acted like it was in stock, but I really put it in my cart....THEN....they admitted it was out of stock. Price ....for what it was worth....was $342....not that matters! Cycle Gear had it for $299....but alas, shows out of stock now.............

Oddly, my local Montgomery dealer claims it's EASIER to get the OEM front tire, than it is the OEM rear tire? They told me for my rear ...which I do need RIGHT NOW......I would have to use another tire other than the OEM Dunlop. The good news, they have a few different ones IN STOCK....that are the right size and fit. I don't like mixing tires, but I might have to do that. My front doesn't need replacing right now.............so I will eventually have to deal with the issue of finding one............ And I'm a bit curious just WHERE they THINK they're going to get an OEM D251 in the right size........

Yes, I find more results using D251 in the search. I found a few others.....with the "hiway robbery price you mentioned"....north of $400. Though those also currently list it out of stock. And yes, on a couple of occasions when I specifically searched for a Dunlop 251 150/60R18 front tire, it came up with matches....but they were for instead...the 150/80R16 front tire. Once I looked closely, I realized the "so called match" was of course BS............. So a couple of those I thought were matches, turns out they weren't. I hate it when you put SPECIFIC information in on a search....it says it has found matches....but looking more closely, no, it's not a match. It was very easy (for me) to miss the 150/80R16 vs 150/60R18 at FIRST glance.........

Sorry for the misinformation and confusion....and delay posting back.....................
 

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Thanks for the update. There is so much BS out there for any tire searches but it feels like it is even worse for this one because of its extremely unconventional size. There is nothing else really that has this size requirement and hence 99% of companies just will not produce it, including Dunlop at this point.

All that being said... Shinko Tires produces a tire that is EXACTLY the same size tire and meets all the requirements for a proper fitment in comparison to the Dunlop. You can also find it for an average price of around $125 (free shipping) from almost EVERYWHERE and it has very good rating by people who are running this on heavy cruisers and touring style bikes.

I'm attaching the information for comparison and future reference, feel free to copy/paste it elsewhere as anyone feels necessary.

This came after the last round of heavy searching, both to hopefully find a good alternative and also to prove my sanity in all of this, and when I stumbled upon it I was skeptical to say the least. However after going over everything with a fine-tooth comb I absolutely feel that this will be the best (and probably only!) replacement for the now extinct Dunlop for our Runes.

I have it on order, along with a few other tires that we already put on order as hail-marys, and we will be checking everything out together once we have everything in hand. Right now I am far more optimistic about getting this resolved having found this tire and I will absolutely keep you all posted on the results.
 

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Great info. My only question, AND I HAVE NO IDEA ON THIS....so perhaps others can chime in, do you think the overall width of 5.94 inch vs 5.57 for the original OEM Dunlop.....do you think that additional .37 inch width would be any issue? My gut feeling (but NOT expert opinion), is that it should NOT be an issue. But maybe some others with more knowledge (from running other tires and doing more research) can chime in with knowledge from experience.

That's my only question at this point. I think it would work, and I'm willing to try one. Just wondered if the additional width is anything to be concerned about? I'll go out and look at my bike and see how much clearance there looks to be. I mean, we're only talking about .37 inch, LESS than half an inch. I wouldn't think that should be an issue............

EDIT - I just noticed it's a rear tire. Rats. My dealer (I don't mount my own tires) won't mount a rear tire on the front......insurance reasons. So I'm going to have to keep looking....... Man, I thought my quest might be over..............
 

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J&P said they expect to have some D251 front tires within a month. Said they are NOT discontinued, just on back order. So they say...................
I would definitely stalk that page then lol. You also SHOULD be able to request a dealer, or any shop with a valid license and vendors, to put that on order through J&P which will then place it onto back-order for you through a business.

Generally a business place will always take priority for vendors and they will supply to them first, over customer requests because of volume sales and extremely negligible return occurrences. Since J&P definitely has a back-order for this tire (it's one of the vendors we spoke to when attempting to get the Dunlop) you will just be added to the queue and wait for it to ship to your dealer.

Also I need to make a correction with the Dunlop as while it isn't "currently in production" my previous post has it worded in a way that makes it seem like production of this tire has ceased entirely or that it is permanently discontinued. That isn't the case but rather what was conveyed to us, via Dunlop support, is that "this tire, in this specific size/model, is no longer part of their current production line and as such is only rotated into limited production at extremely variable intervals" which leads to the company never showing any official "in stock" levels or "re-stock" availability.

Short Version: Dunlop does not see enough profit via sales from this size/model for it to be worth a consistent production but it still has product requests and as such they still will make 5 of them per year for us to fight over.
 

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If memory serves, back in my early days owning this Rune, and also Shala getting her own Rune, we both had the Stinkos mounted to the front (mainly because of the YUUGE price difference from the OEM Dunlop), and neither of us had much luck in getting very good mileage out of them. Knowing me, and not having reviewed any previous recorded stats, I'm guessing I shredded my Stinko in under 3500 miles. Shala's (again - going on memory alone) lasted many more miles than mine, but she had some pretty bad cupping going on causing her to have some slight corner wobbling going on, and because of that, and to this very day, will not let me put a Stinko on either one of her bikes.

But like I said before, I luv the Stinkos on my 09 Vmax, which has very different front-to-back & total overall weight ratios than do our Runes. I get decent mileage out of the front Verge 011 fronts on that bike - changing them out about every third rear Shinko on it's back end......5-6K miles. (me likes high speed curvees) :)

Hopefully you get some satisfaction out of running The Shinkos on your Rune - rubber compounds may have changed over the years, and your riding style may be greatly different than my own.
 

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My Reply from Dunlop....on whether or not they'll continue to make the D251 in the 150/60R18 size for the front:

Hello Tim,

Thank you for contacting Dunlop Motorcycle Tires. The D251 150/60R18 have not been discontinued but is part of the annual make to order program. I do not see them currently for production within the next 60 days. Please take note Production dates may change at any time. I would recommend, if you haven’t done so already, that you order the tire from your local dealer and make sure they have them on backorder from their Dunlop distributors to ensure you can get those tires as quickly as possible.

Regards

THOMAS LEE
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Dunlop Motorcycle Tires
8656 Haven Ave
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
800-845-8378
716-279-3579

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My Reply from Dunlop....on whether or not they'll continue to make the D251 in the 150/60R18 size for the front:

Hello Tim,

Thank you for contacting Dunlop Motorcycle Tires. The D251 150/60R18 have not been discontinued but is part of the annual make to order program. I do not see them currently for production within the next 60 days. Please take note Production dates may change at any time. I would recommend, if you haven’t done so already, that you order the tire from your local dealer and make sure they have them on backorder from their Dunlop distributors to ensure you can get those tires as quickly as possible.

Regards

THOMAS LEE
Consumer Affairs


Dunlop Motorcycle Tires
8656 Haven Ave
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
800-845-8378
716-279-3579

[email protected]
Yeah this is pretty much what we got back from Dunlop and why I tried to make sure that I conveyed that a bit better in my later post. Definitely do appreciate you posting that reply though so we have something logged directly for future inquiries on this whole situation.

I definitely understand why they are not in continuous production but it still hurts us as Rune owners to be at the mercy of such a situation and at the same time the mercy of variable price inflation depending on the dealers we may have access to. Pair that with the back-order status of "hurry up and wait for it" and it can be a very sad day for a Rune owner, especially if they are consistently riding and going through tires at standard intervals.
 

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We installed the Shinko and it fits amazingly. No rubbing of any sorts at any points and it looks good on the rune to boot. I'll get some pictures over later on but for now I wanted to get in a quick update on where things are at. For the price it honestly can't be beat and we went over this tire pretty intensely before fully installing and it really is the most sound option out there for fitment and almost exact OEM specs to the Dunlop.

We even put some time together to discuss everything with some motorcycle tire gurus and manufacturing specialists both locally and afar, we had the time while waiting for this tire as they decided to ship it to us from the east coast rather than out of California for some reason. The overall, almost overwhelmingly in support of installing this tire, consensus was that with current manufacturing processes along with the design and design features of the OEM Dunlop in comparison to this Shinko there is little to almost no worry of issues. The only issues that were remotely raised were; finding a shop to install it that isn't going to A) piss and moan about liabilities and B) want to charge you some astronomical fee to install it and; how your insurance company is going to handle any situations that would arise if there were ever a need to contact them as a result of any accident or necessary claim.

With that last part I have now personally had to handle things with not only my insurance, as a result of this recent accident (fiasco), but also the liable parties insurance. My insurance had zero issues with anything and was prepared to get everything taken care of for me without delay in the even that the liable party was going to cause problems. The responsible insurance company came back with zero issues in regards to the tire in any way, shape, or form even as they attempted to nit-pick for any issues they did not want to be made to pay for and drag their feet at times. They never even brought it into question and the area of my Rune that was damaged was where I had a rear tire, of a varied size and all, installed and running in reverse direction... not a peep.

Obviously that could change based on insurance companies and inspectors/adjusters but everyone's feeling has been that it really wouldn't come up as an issue.

I'll get pictures in later as I said but for now things are looking better.
 

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We installed the Shinko and it fits amazingly. No rubbing of any sorts at any points and it looks good on the rune to boot. I'll get some pictures over later on but for now I wanted to get in a quick update on where things are at. For the price it honestly can't be beat and we went over this tire pretty intensely before fully installing and it really is the most sound option out there for fitment and almost exact OEM specs to the Dunlop.

We even put some time together to discuss everything with some motorcycle tire gurus and manufacturing specialists both locally and afar, we had the time while waiting for this tire as they decided to ship it to us from the east coast rather than out of California for some reason. The overall, almost overwhelmingly in support of installing this tire, consensus was that with current manufacturing processes along with the design and design features of the OEM Dunlop in comparison to this Shinko there is little to almost no worry of issues. The only issues that were remotely raised were; finding a shop to install it that isn't going to A) piss and moan about liabilities and B) want to charge you some astronomical fee to install it and; how your insurance company is going to handle any situations that would arise if there were ever a need to contact them as a result of any accident or necessary claim.

With that last part I have now personally had to handle things with not only my insurance, as a result of this recent accident (fiasco), but also the liable parties insurance. My insurance had zero issues with anything and was prepared to get everything taken care of for me without delay in the even that the liable party was going to cause problems. The responsible insurance company came back with zero issues in regards to the tire in any way, shape, or form even as they attempted to nit-pick for any issues they did not want to be made to pay for and drag their feet at times. They never even brought it into question and the area of my Rune that was damaged was where I had a rear tire, of a varied size and all, installed and running in reverse direction... not a peep.

Obviously that could change based on insurance companies and inspectors/adjusters but everyone's feeling has been that it really wouldn't come up as an issue.

I'll get pictures in later as I said but for now things are looking better.
Thank you for your investigative skills.
Perhaps a Rune members petition with a few hundred signatures might help?
 
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