[Madroober]

Boy this Guy Hates His Rune Not to mention all Motorcycles! :evil:
His loss can be somebody's gain.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 11146&rd=1
Todd

 

[HogSlayer]

Boy, with that kind of write up he'll never sell it! Sounds like he bought it as a investment, WRONG REASON! I laughed my butt off at his sales pitch!

 

[E-Z Chuck]

Is this for real? or is this a bogus listing by a disgruntled Rune owner/

 

[Joseph]

I question this, looks like a scam of some sort. If its not I could care less if its the color I want Id be bidding.

 

[ZillaMoto]

doh guys...he happens to be a forum member...

(just for your info)

 

[Joseph]

And willing to give it away??? then again maybe not, reserve not being known. The other one listed has no reserve. In any case not a strong sales pitch.

The one issue I will give him is the ref to limited production. I was led to believe the same thing, one per dealer. I have called three dealers so far and all told me the same thing. Name the color and specs and they can get it for me. OTD at 24,500 without dickering.

Imkind of dissapointed in the production issue. I wonder how many were actually built.

 

[ZillaMoto]

just checked that auction you posted...

the name given doesn't seem to match the bike that member has (black)...and also his posts on this forum would indicate he is happy with his bike.

Smells funny. Scam?

 

[ZillaMoto]

...and

location of bike is different state.

Suspicious.

 

[Joseph]

contacted seller

I sent an email requesting info on mileage on this bike. I got a quick response stating "There is 1600 miles on the Rune, no scratches or dents, it looks showroom perfect, even better because I removed those cheezy red and yellow reflectors."


Senders name... Brenda Wilson.

If its legit and depending on the reserve it could be a great deal.

 

[Joseph]

contacted seller

I sent an email requesting info on mileage on this bike. I got a quick response stating "There is 1600 miles on the Rune, no scratches or dents, it looks showroom perfect, even better because I removed those cheezy red and yellow reflectors."


Senders name... Brenda Wilson.

If its legit and depending on the reserve it could be a great deal.

 

[INDYWAGS]

i JUST SENT THIS CLOWN AN EMAIL REQUESTING THE VIN # ON THE BIKE, THIS SHOULD PROVE THE AUTHENTICITY (OR LACK THERE OF) OF THIS AD. I THINK IT'S ANOTHER EBAY-SCAM. WILL LET YOU KNOW.

INDYWAGS

 

[Madroober]

Re: contacted seller

It will be interesting to see what happens. If its legit this might be a great deal on a Rune with chrome wheels for someone.
Todd

 

[INDYWAGS]

WELL, I HEARD BACK FROM THIS CLOWN, HERE WAS HER (YES "HER") RESPONSE:

"John the vin# is 1hfsc53634000190. John why are you interested in the vin # are you a Honda rep? If you are you should have lots of questions about this bike and your companies "selling techniques/ethics". I'm really unhappy with being lied to so many times and at so many levels. "

MAY BE A GOOD PRICE IF IT IS LEGIT...

INDYWAGS

PS - KINDA COINCIDENTAL THAT THE LAST 3 DIGITS ARE ONLY 6 NUMBERS OFF OF MINE...I THINK.

 

[blewrune]

if it's true .....

I wrote the "open letter to VP" about my dealership & didn't get response. These dealerships have too much power & say so when it comes to "our" bikes. I love my Rune ....... best bike ever in my mind. I even like it more now that I've purchased extras for comfort (seat,saddle bags,windsheild).

However, bait & switch doesn't sit well with me. On Speed Channel, Cycleworld magazine states 2005 Rune coming with different colors & yet higher price.

If true, someone will get a gr8 deal.

 

[patentcad]

I have a lot of eBay experience and this certainly doesn't seem to be a scam to me. There would be numerous ways to ascertain the reality of this person and the bike - a xerox of the title and a call to the dealership to verify that this person purchased the bike there for two things off the top of my head. Yes, I do think this will be a helluva deal for somebody. There is a dealer here in Pennsylvania advertising a new Rune for $21K or so - right on the back of the local Cycle Trader rag - so dealers do seem to think they're soft. Ultimately I think once they're gone they'll get stronger -
yet this guy will be lucky to get $18K for this bike. Just a great opportunity for somebody to cop a Rune at a bargain basement price. What does bother me is a guy trying to sell a $16K+ motorcycle with zero feedback - but again, there are ways to make sure it's not a scam before you part with the dough. For something this big I'd probably GO there and eyeball the bike before handing over the check. Then I'd load it up on the truck myself and drive it home - all the way to New York. It would be worth the trip to save that kind of money.

Ultimately anybody who buys a motorcycle as an investment is nuts - unless they're buying some rare vintage piece that's already highly collectible. But a NEW bike as an investment? That's absurd and you don't have to be a car or motorcycle industry expert to know that. The people who own Runes here bought them for all the right reasons - to enjoy them, and they HOPE that they bike will hold value IF they ever decide to sell their Rune.

 

[Joseph]

2005 higher price ?

If the 2005 has a higher price it will only mean more of them sitting unsold on show room floors.

 

[Joseph]

Patent... The one may not seem like a scam. The other being listed with no reserve, and seller having a hidden ID certainly sends up red flags for me. Maybe if there hadnt been so many scams on Ebay in the past year or so Id think otherwise.

On the other hand if they start selling used with 1600 miles for say 16 grand. Well its a sad day no matter if you understand its not a investment or not. If thats the case with these two bikes I hope its a scam and no one gets burnt.

As far as them going up in value once they stop selling. Well if they had stuck with the story I was told and had limited it to say 1200 bikes I think your right. But thats not the case. The adds on cycle trader are thick from state to state. Dealers are listing them on ebay so your right, buy it because its the bike you want and dont expect to get a dime back. You cant be dissapointed with that in mind.

 

[patentcad]

>>The other being listed with no reserve, and seller having a hidden ID certainly sends up red flags for me. Maybe if there hadnt been so many scams on Ebay in the past year or so Id think otherwise. <<

I couldn't agree more. You have to watch your ass on eBay - it is rife with scams and eBay doesn't seem interested in making the commitment to security - and the many millions of dollars in increased payroll that would entail. Ultimately it's harder to scam somebody buying a motorcycle - if only because anybody with common sense would require so much proof before parting with money that it's unlikely that anyone would be enough of a sucker to get burned in such an auction. It's different with guitars - commonly shipped merchandise. But how many people would be willing to buy a $16K+ motorcycle sight unseen - I sure wouldn't. If I was buying a Rune on eBay part of the experience would be picking up the bike in person - or at the very least engaging a local agent to represent my interests - even if that's the company that's shipping the bike. No title, no bike, no funds - it's as simple as that, and if the seller won't make it that simple look ELSEWHERE.

But no reserve, hidden eBay ID - I wouldn't go near THAT deal with a ten foot pole. Those who have little experience with eBay and are interested in a used Rune please take note. I'd invite anyone here with any reservations about an eBay auction to email me: [email protected] - and I'll help you assess the auction. My feedback is 110+ and I've been buying and selling high end items (mostly expensive guitars) for over four years - without ever falling victim to a scam. It's not hard if you know what to watch out for - like hidden ID's and no reserve auctions on $18K+ motorcycles. Another major red flag - BUYERS AND SELLERS from abroad, but particularly Indonesia and Eastern Europe (former Soviet Union). I've sold guitars to buyers in Europe and Canada several times, but any foreign party should at least make you more cautious - and if 'Indonesia' or 'Nigeria' were mentioned anywhere I'd simply stay away.

Think about this for a second - what legit seller would list a Rune with no reserve? It can't be legit.